LDS Debate: When a religious belief causes you to treat a loved one with anger or coldness its not a church to anymore, its a cult+3

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Family members can be rude to you about what kind of shirt you where, or cereal you buy. That doesn't make the cereal manufacturer a cult.
As long as very few people from a religion are ostracized for leaving it, then it is not a "cult".
Catholics, Jews, Methodist, and Atheist are all rude to people who disagree with them. This does not make them all cults.

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MEDIUM LENGTH EXPLANATION

I am organizing reasons to agree and disagree with the church from my own life, but also from exmormon and apologist websites. I am organizing these arguments by topic and putting them on the same page, in a format that you can compare the logic of both sides, and pursue each argument separately, by following the path of reasons to agree and disagree, until you reach a complete outline of the issues.

I am also counting reasons to agree and disagree, and trying to give each idea a score based on the number and quality of arguments that support it.

This work needs more than one person, but its not as hard as it sounds.

This work is founded on principles of succesful dispute resolution that teach that you need to bring both sides TOGETHER to the same table. You need to listen to both sides, and outline their interest in an ORGANIZED format.

I also promote successful dispute resolution by outlining not just the logic of the argument, but outlining the interest common and opposing interest of each party.

We need one page per topic, because our beliefs can't be chronologically organized, and we need reasons to agree and disagree on the same page. The apologist, and ex-Mormons aren't going to build a webpage together, so we are going to have to do it for them!

"No concept man forms is valid unless he integrates it without contradiction into the sum of his knowledge."

“A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking.” ~ Steven Wright

We don't have to come to stupid conclusions, because as a group of people, we can keep thinking until we come to good conclusions.

"It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true". ~ Bertrand Russell

We can have an online brainstorming session for all "ground for supposing our propositions are true".

"Only error needs to fear freedom of expression" Hugh B. Brown

"Now I have mentioned freedom to express your thoughts, but I caution you that your thoughts and expressions must meet competition in the market place of thought, and in that competition truth will emerge triumphant. Only error needs to fear freedom of expression. Seek truth in all fields, and in that search you will need at least three virtues; courage, zest, and modesty. The ancients put that thought in the form of a prayer. They said, 'From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth, from the laziness that is content with half truth, from the arrogance that thinks it has all truth—O God of truth deliver us'." ~ Hugh B. Brown

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When a religious belief causes you to treat a loved one with anger or coldness its not a church to anymore, its a cult+3

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